Meet Jefa: Yvonne Armenta Latina Presente + Chats With Yvonne

Discover how public speaking can be a transformative tool for self-expression with Yvonne Armenta, a public speaking consultant and founder of Latina Presente. Yvonne shares her unique journey, from her beginnings in the tech industry of San Francisco to becoming a beacon of empowerment for introverts and Latinas in the public speaking realm. Through practical strategies and personal narratives, Yvonne reveals how she has made public speaking more accessible and less intimidating for those who may shy away from the spotlight.

Unlock the secrets to enhanced productivity and creativity with our discussion on balancing structure and spontaneity in daily routines. We dive into the benefits of dedicating morning hours to creative tasks and the power of pre-planning to conquer decision fatigue, enabling a more efficient and fulfilling day. Yvonne and I also explore the profound impact of authenticity in public speaking, where embracing one’s cultural identity and personal traits can lead to genuine connections and personal growth.

Excitement fills the air as we announce the launch of a virtual public speaking club, where individuals can share speeches and engage in meaningful discussions. This initiative aims to foster a sense of community and confidence, encouraging participants to embrace their unique voices. Journey with us through insights on navigating entrepreneurship and authenticity, and discover how these elements intertwine to create a fulfilling career path that resonates with personal passions and values. Join us for an episode filled with inspiration, empowerment, and the promise of authentic expression.

Transcript

Jefa Journey

Speaker 1 0:00

Hi, jefas, welcome back to the Cabecito con Jefas podcast. I'm your host, kita Zuleta, a brand strategist, jefa coach and photographer from LA. It's season two and, whether you are a seasoned entrepreneur or just starting out, this season is packed with powerful conversations, actionable strategies and the realness that Cabecito con Jefas is known for. My jefa journey has been anything but linear. I've pursued entrepreneurship in many forms over the past 15 years and I'm excited to share my knowledge and use my podcast to host conversations about real life and entrepreneurship, aka Jefa Life. While our paths may vary, the emotions and experiences we share unite us. We're all the same, same but different. So grab a favorite mug, pour yourself a cafecito and get cozy, because these conversations will ignite your passion, spark creativity, elevate your thinking and fuel your determination. I see you, jefa. Keep going. Welcome to the Cafecito con Jefas podcast. Hi Jefas, Welcome back to the Cafecito con Jefas podcast. I'm your host, kita Zuleta. Today, I am so excited to finally be sitting here with amiga and fellow jefa, yvonne Armenta.

Speaker 1 1:14

Yvonne Armenta is a speaker, public speaking consultant, podcaster and founder of Latina Presente, dedicated to creating spaces and products that guide introverts and Latinas in their public speaking practice Through her monthly workshops, in-person events, podcasts, chats with Yvonne and social media platforms. Yvonne shares practical strategies for mastering public speaking con cultura. Her unique approach helps individuals embrace their lived experiences as the very thing that will make their speaking impactful and grow their speaking skills, making her a sought-after consultant and speaker for corporate teams, nonprofits and individuals. Mis respetos, jefa. Look at all that.

Speaker 2 2:00

Hi, I was like gosh, that's like I should probably shorten that a little bit.

Speaker 1 2:05

You know I love reading bios in front of the fellow Hefas. Now it's something that I started incorporating in season two, both to help me practice my reading out loud but also just allowing to see like the receiving of your own bio Like it's a whole experience it really is.

Speaker 2 2:24

It's kind of it's shocking, because it's like, yeah, I wrote that I know what that information is, but every time you hear it back you're like, okay, I really do, I do some stuff in the world.

Speaker 1 2:37

That's kind of cool, it kill me. But yes. So I gave your official introduction, but I'd love for you to introduce yourself. Welcome, amiga. We have rescheduled this interview for a minute now, but we're here, we're doing it so officially. I'd love for you to introduce who you are and what you do, who you serve and where you're located?

Speaker 2 3:00

Yeah, so I am originally from San Francisco, california. I started my public speaking career 11 years ago back home in the Bay. So I am originally from San Francisco, california. I started my public speaking career 11 years ago back home in the Bay. So I always say that my journey with public speaking really started there and my yearn for wanting to connect with audiences started there, without me really even knowing.

Speaker 2 3:19

I'm a first generation, first in my family, to go to college, graduate from college. I'm also the oldest sister of three. I grew up with a single mom and my journey into public speaking kind of started by accident because someone said, hey, do you want to keynote this conference? And, as a first gen, all the things that I just described I'm like, well, yeah, you don't pass up opportunities because you think that if you do, you're going to miss out on something. Or, just as a first gen, you're just like to be successful. I need to take all of the opportunities, which now, as an entrepreneur kind of learning and unlearning those things right. But that's how I really started my public speaking. That was the first paid speaking engagement that I had, and so I always say that San Francisco is my home, not only because my family is there and because it saw me grow up, but also because that's where I started my public speaking career and that's where I grew as a speaker as well. I now live in San Diego and I started Chats with Yvonne.

Speaker 2 4:18

Around the same time, I think a lot of people sort of started their own businesses or creative ventures in 2020. I was working a nine to five job. I have been in the tech industry at that point for I think six or seven years and I said to myself I had an opportunity to host a virtual talk show through the company that I was working at and I was interviewing celebrities and I was like this is so cool and at the same time, I was like it takes a lot of energy for me to do this. And I was interviewing celebrities and I was like this is so cool and at the same time, I was like it takes a lot of energy for me to do this and I have to prepare. And I remember something that went through my mind was are people going to think like people at my job going to think that this is weird that I'm doing this, because I don't always show up in this way, right Talkative?

Speaker 1 5:06

with people.

Speaker 2 5:09

And that is what public speaking is, and at that point I had been doing it for a really long time but I was kind of living like a double life and I just kind of got inspired to share on Instagram, share my tips as a first generation Latina who's working in tech and also as an introvert. As a first generation Latina who's working in tech and also as an introvert. So I started sharing a lot of public speaking tips from my perspective to try to make public speaking something that was more attainable, that was less scary, because I still got scared, I still got really nervous, but every time that I public spoke I felt this rush of energy right, and as an introvert, we're all about managing our energy and public speaking really gave me. It gave me that. It gave me energy in a way that nothing really else had. So flash forward to me sharing and starting to post about these things.

Speaker 2 5:56

About a year ago, I decided to leave my corporate job in social impacts and community management and start just my consulting business. So I do one-on-ones public speaking, consultations, workshops with organizations. I have public speaking practice cards that I recently launched and I host events for Latinas and introverts to practice public speaking. I think that our practice it sounds really cheesy, but our practice is really the foundation of how we form habits with public speaking and how we connect and reconnect back to public speaking, and so I wanted to create events and curate products that actually help you do that from the comfort of wherever you are, too Like the cards. I'm like you know as introverts take those wherever you are and then go on the stage and show us what you've got, kind of thing. So that was a long answer, but that's a little bit about me.

Speaker 1 6:49

Well, I love it because it answered a couple of questions actually that we have, which was how you started pursuing this and giving us a bit of that backstory, and I love how you shared where you're from and where you're at now and the connection that you have to the Bay and really how it's just like your origination point, right Like this is where you came from. You asked me where my hood at it's the Bay right.

Speaker 2 7:16

I always say this, I still brag about, because a few years ago actually, they changed the area code because they ran out of 415 area code numbers and I'm like I still have a 415 area code and I'm very proud of that.

Speaker 1 7:30

Yes, area codes mean a lot for us in Southern California or in California, I think, everywhere, right, it's just a territory thing.

Speaker 1 7:40

But, anyways, it's pride where you come from, so I love it. I love thank you for that insight and I think it's really cool also having these conversations because it gets to like one. We get to know each other on a different like level. Right, we get to know a bit of the backstory or just a different side of things. A different side of things, pero, as jefas, I feel like in community, we have still a perception about each other and what is being put out on social media as marketing.

Speaker 1 8:17

Mind you, we are marketing and so it's a really great way to get behind the scenes, to kind of get to know us at that level, and also really just being able to talk about the life behind the scenes and how we now right now, you're a year into Hefa Life and jumping all in. I'd love to hear about your transition this past year. I'd love to hear about your transition this past year because, right, the chat with Yvonne and the concept of doing this maybe really started in 2020 and maybe started showing up as such. But talk to me about this past year, like, now that you're all in, how's it going?

Speaker 2 9:03

How has entrepreneurship treated you and tell us about that story. You and tell us about that story. Yeah, it's been hard, but not, I don't think, because of the typical things that I assume other people think it's hard. I mean, yes, it's all of those things that make it hard. Plus, this is, I think, the primary thing for me the transition has been hard for me because I rely so much on my I'm an introvert right and so naturally I protect my energy so much. And I've realized that doing this full time and fully going in as an entrepreneur requires me to show up even when my energy is drained. And that is something that I've had to navigate because at the same time that I'm transitioning from my nine to five that has more structure into my own thing, I am also tapping even deeper into my own healing, which is a lot of unlearning people pleasing right or creating boundaries for myself, and so I think the combination of those two things happening at the same time has been really energetically draining for me. And the other part that has been kind of hard for me to transition into is having an idea and having to fully flesh it out before it actually going live right, because, again, the nature of me, being an introvert means that I'm also a deep thinker and that I will look at all the possible outcomes of this, and so it takes me a little bit longer to get something out, or it takes me a little longer even when I set my own deadlines. Right. Like in a job, you have the deadline, they give you the work that you have to do. Y, aunque te salga mas o menos, you did it and it's out there, right. And I think I'm in a transition of needing to be okay with the fact that it's not going to be in its most perfect form, but that when it goes out there, it's actually. It going out into the world is actually the thing that's going to give me the insight that I need to perfect it or to make it what I actually improve. And so I think those two things have been really hard for me.

Speaker 2 11:22

I, um, I also am because of my because I'm on this like healing journey of like I deserve self care and I deserve to like rest and chill for a little bit, like I've been grinding and hustling my entire life right, like I have been. I don't remember not having a job, like at 16, I started working right. Y, desde ahí, ya no paré de trabajar. And I'm like I deserve this right and at the same time it kind of contradicts not contradicts, because I think they can coexist but there's just some I don't believe in this balance. Right, there's some days where my business is going to require me to be tired and to neglect some part of my life and I'm in a constant state of no pero. Si I can have all the balance, I should have all the balance, and so that has been really hard for me in the transition.

Speaker 1 12:16

Yeah, yeah, and I'm really curious about that and I'm really grateful that you brought that up, because I'm someone who is very interested or intrigued, or something that just consumes so much of how I think and what drives is time. I can see time like Tetris. I can see time almost in color. It's just a concept that I want to know even more about. I'm trying to figure out how to do this, but I really want to do.

Speaker 1 12:58

I've read so many different time management books. I get geeky about the data and like the different strategies and what people are talking about. Pero bueno, one of the authors, talks about like having done time studies and having participants just like write out and track their weeks and see where their time goes. But so many of these studies and, uh, participants don't look like us Right, and so I'm over here like I want to know our data. Like where does, how do we track our time? Like I am so curious to know what the data is for us as jefas, for those of us who are used to grinding and hustling so much, for those of us who, like literal Yvonne, I have been.

Speaker 1 13:47

Really there's been a lot of healing also happening, a lot of deep work happening, and in this season of transition for myself, I've been trying to really look at my time and say, okay, I deserve to rest, when am I going to wind down? I always need to make sure to prioritize that and put that in my time. Like we're getting out of the survival season, right, and trying to claim the harvest and just, we need to keep showing up, but we get to rest and we get to recuperate the energy that we need to keep going with all of the things. And so I'm really intrigued how you're talking about the flow of how you show up and having to navigate that. I'd love to hear about how you have put together, let's say, what your week would look like.

Speaker 1 14:44

Right, thinking about how you show up energetically. Right, because I think that's just so important for us, and not just as introverts, but also as jefas, knowing that showing up for marketing purposes, in order to make sales, in order for our business to keep going, like that, takes a lot of energy from us, right? So, when you're especially so in tune with the amount of energy that you do have, how have you shown up for yourself and your business in that way? Because, según yo, you're online all the time, mujer.

Morning Creativity and Decision Making

Speaker 2 15:20

Yeah, yeah, I mean, I kinds of am right. So I think some days are better than others, when I have time to the only days. The only time that I will actually plan out is my morning. Time is like before noon, because that is when my brain is at its peak. I try not to do too much. What is it? Not boring work, but just logistics, right, I try to do too much of that.

Speaker 2 15:52

I try to use my morning to be creative. I try to use my morning to if there is a, and to me, creative varies, right. It's not just like creating the content or outlining it. It's let me put this public speaking curriculum together for this person, right? Or let me ideate on what the public speaking club could look like, like all the features of it. Right, that's like when I use my creativity, sometimes it's blocked by oh, I have a meeting right at this time, right. So then that kind of dictates the way that the rest of my day goes. But Something that I've learned about myself is that I am a planner, but that I am also half.

Speaker 2 16:35

I'm like half and half. I'm a planner and I need a little bit of structure, but I need a little bit of go with the flow within that structure, and so I'm I try to be more conscious and put more effort into by hour, by hour in the morning, and then just free flow it, say, have a general idea of what I need to do, but just free flow it the rest of the afternoon. I don't know if that always helps me, but it's what works for my brain in the mornings and I'm telling you, kita, it's like what works for my brain in the mornings and I'm telling you it's like I don't know. But these days it's even like, okay, I'm going to wake up at six, 6.15. I'm going to go downstairs, grab my cafecito, brush my teeth.

Speaker 2 17:14

At this time I should be done by like 6.30. So then I'll go downstairs and start like I have to actually map those things out in order for me to do them, because, in line with I need self-care I also deserve like, should I go on the run right? It's like making too many decisions in the morning for me dictates the way that the rest of my day will go and my productivity throughout the day. So I like to ask myself the questions a day before something. It's better to do them the next day solving yeah, do them the next day.

Speaker 1 17:49

Oh, I like that as a strategy y'all, because really that is a great way to do the problem solving through that, in that think through right, like thinking through the situation in advance, deciding what you're going to wear, pulling out the socks so you don't have to hunt them down right, like putting your shoes by the door, like thinking through those things and deciding beforehand.

Speaker 2 18:06

I love that strategy because then it still gives you the freedom to essentially do whatever you want the next day Exactly, and I think I have the freedom, but I've already thought it out Like I think my time management is very heavily chained to my decision making, like how many decisions I have to make throughout the day, and I do get decision fatigue. I find that most of my energy is drained not by the things that I'm doing, but by the decisions that I need to make throughout the day.

Speaker 2 18:34

You're going to have to make decisions as a business owner and entrepreneur all day, every day, and so if there's something that I can manage a little bit better the day before, I try to do that.

Speaker 1 18:43

Yeah, oh, I love that.

Speaker 1 18:45

I love that so much and I think it's a really great thing to practice when we're looking at and knowing también, I love that you know that you're like yo en la mañana, right, like that's when I need to work, that's when I'm sharp, and I think that's a huge part about that healing journey también, where we get to know thyself right and get to know where we and how we function, mejor dicho, how we function and when we're on and when we're creative.

Speaker 1 19:12

So I love that you've done that in this heavy journey of yours and being able to structure it the way that you're wanting to show up for yourself and for your business. And I wanted to hear when it comes to your business and all that you're doing, because obviously I've had the privilege to get to know you and hear a few of your talks and be a part of a few of your workshops and go to your events. But, speaking to the Hefas, who may not know you, I would love for them to hear a bit more of not just how you do what you do and how you serve your clients, but also why you do them Like ¿qué fue que se te metió? You know, like, yes, you started public speaking in San Francisco, but what is it that really pulled you into being a public speaking coach doing this?

Empowerment Through Public Speaking

Speaker 2 20:05

Yeah, when I decided to start public speaking and I always bring it back to this because I remember at one point someone had said to me I don't like public speaking because it feels like it's very egocentric, like the person that's on the stage just wants to talk, and it hit me in that moment that that is actually the complete opposite of why I started and continued in my public speaking journey. Right, I realized that public speaking, the art of it itself, is so intriguing to me and I nerd out about it all the time I study it, right. But more than anything, it was the tool. It was the one tool, the only tool that has ever worked for me in really feeling like I could own various parts of myself and bring them to the forefront. There is no other space like the stage that you create for yourself, that other people create for you, and the time that you spend crafting your art in public speaking. There's nothing like it. That will help, you say I'm going to lean into my introversion.

Speaker 1 21:09

I'm going to lead with it.

Speaker 2 21:11

I want to lead with the fact that I am first gen, that I am a Latina in this space. I want to lead with the fact that I move my hands a lot when I speak, because it's part of my cultural communications. I don't believe that there is anything else in this world that would have allowed me to feel this confidence to lead with those very things that for so long I had suppressed, because the world asked me to right, directly and indirectly. And so I recognize the power of public speaking as a tool for allowing us to, yes, share our stories but, even more than that, allow us to fully show up, even if it's not on the stage, just everywhere else, and say this is who I am, because public speaking asks you to be a storyteller. It asks you to think very deeply and reflect about your lived experiences, your expertise, and find a way to share that with people and get creative with it. And the only way that we can get creative with it is by really acknowledging, centering our uniqueness right, because the way that I do it is so different than the way that someone else does it, and that's what resonates with your audience. And so I was inspired to start consulting because one people, I think, wanted the information. They wanted to get better at public speaking. Right, it's one of the top fears in the world and we all recognize its importance in whether you want to be on the stage or you work your nine to five the promotion, all of that. We recognize the importance in public speaking. Work your nine to five, the promotion all of that. We recognize the importance in public speaking.

Unleashing Authenticity Through Public Speaking

Speaker 2 22:50

But the other layer of it was I want people to see public speaking as the tool, as the tool for centering who they are and showing up in this way Like that to me. I know it sounds cheesy, but to me, when someone asks, how do you show up authentically, it's like to me practice your public speaking. Public speaking is it. It's the tool that's going to help us just all get there. And yes, I am very biased when I say that, and so that is my why.

Speaker 2 23:11

That is why I really wanted to do consulting, because I was, like you know, when I started public speaking, this is not the type of the way that I was receiving the information and it drove me to, yes, understanding the art and being very knowledgeable in it, but it drove me farther away from who I was as a person and not centering Yvonne and bringing Yvonne on every stage authentically. And so I wanted to create the spaces whether it be workshops or one-on-one right. I wanted to create the types of spaces where you felt comfortable to practice your public speaking Que te sientas en comunidad that you're like oh okay, I'm not being judged by this.

Speaker 2 23:52

I'm simply just practicing my art. So that's why I started it and why I went into the consulting.

Speaker 1 24:00

That's so awesome. You know, what's really cool is that I got to be a part of your Latina Presente event here in LA a few weeks ago now, but in September it's been a couple months. As you're talking, about what you're doing and this space where you want to feel comfortable, I am literalmente like thinking about that event, and not just because obviously it's connected, but that's the space that we have. That's a space that you created, literal, in real life, and so it was cool. As you're talking, I'm imagining all of the ladies that went to this event and went on stage and practiced. And when we talk about stage, people think about some theater and a spotlight and whatever, and it sounds bigger than it is.

Speaker 1 25:02

And probably why public speaking is such a big fear right, because you don't think of public speaking as placing your order at McDonald's.

Speaker 1 25:09

Right, like you don't think about public speaking as like your day-to-day Though they make me just as nervous. Yeah, but it's this thing where it's just going right, like speaking to more than one person, speaking out loud, allowing yourself to be seen, and I love that. You're talking about how it's a tool to get to know yourself and own yourself fully. You know what is pretty phenomenal about that statement, and what came to my mind was my actual first opportunity to give a keynote speech was at Café de la Mujer, right and so a community owned by a fellow jefa and run by a fellow jefa. We love it, we're part of Café de la Mujer and gotten to be a part of a few of her events, and so I had the privilege to give a keynote there, and it was my first keynote and it was the first time, at least in years, that I had stepped on stage in front of my peers, or in front of people really.

Speaker 2 26:17

But thankfully I was in comunidad right, with people that I was comfortable with Exactly A great stage to come back to People that I was comfortable with A great stage, to come back to, welcomed with open arms.

Speaker 1 26:27

Yeah, and I remember I mean speaking technically I butchered that speech when it came to structure, lack thereof. Whatever, the point is, what was cool about the experience was in the stress of preparing and figuring out what I was going to say, and you know the whole concept of sharing your story. You know that's where what you were saying was really hitting home, that I was like whoa, that really was quite literally the first time that I stood in a room and reintroduce myself and my story and who I am as an expert, as a jefa, as a person, you know, to a room as Gita, like as myself, and literal because the theme was new beginnings and all of the things right, like we were talking about moving forward and owning our authenticity. So then, encima for myself, it was truly that kind of stepping stone for myself in my personal journey, because then it was like, well, if I have to, if I'm telling a room full of people like this is who I am ahora, ya me toca.

Virtual Public Speaking Club Launch

Speaker 2 27:34

Like this is who I am right, like yeah, and the power that that gives you to just say that out loud, right? Like we so so often in all of the spaces that we are normally a part of, you have to dilute those parts of who you are, and so, because you dilute them it's not that we even recognize often that we're diluting them, right, we just think, oh, this is the way that it is, that when it's time to show up as ourselves, nos ponemos hasta más nerviosas. And so think about the combination of public speaking and showing up in this more authentic way than you ever have before. It can be a lot right, but through that keynote that you did, you learn your own process. You understand what did I do to practice or didn't do to practice? How did I show up on the day of? ¿qué me salió naturalmente? What did I think I was going to say? Or how did I think I was supposed to say this and how did it naturally, more organically, come out of me? Because that's who we need on the stage. You don't need this super uniformed type of public speaker.

Speaker 2 28:43

Again, public speaking allows you to show up in the way that you want and apply your different cultural communications techniques to show up this way, because we're creating the type of public speaking that, back when I started, was like nowhere to be seen, right? I went on YouTube and I studied all these people and I was trying to be more like them, and so I I the the reason I think it's so important to just dive into your public speaking without even looking at other people, because then we play this game of comparison. The reason I think it's so important to start your public speaking and start practicing it and creating spaces like Latina presente right or hanging out with your friends and saying, hey, I want to practice this, let's do it right. The reason that is so important is because then that becomes your foundation for your public speaking journey and if you're grounded on that, nothing else can sort of come in the way of you practicing your art and practicing it really authentically.

Speaker 1 29:44

Mm-hmm. Yeah, oh man, and I think too, it's powerful being able to step into spaces knowing who you are. After you've done it a few times and as you practice owning that, I think I mean it's a huge part of why I encourage us to practice our introductions with CCJ right Literal, practicing public speaking, but I also don't even think about it in those terms because I'm not a public speaking expert.

Speaker 2 30:10

But it is yeah.

Speaker 1 30:11

But it's very much so, just like let's practice introducing ourselves, because just saying our name and our title and this is what we do, kind of like reading your bio at the beginning, it reminds you who you are right, the homofasa but, like it's knowing, like this is who I am, this is what I do, and you mentioned it in cafecito a couple weeks ago, where you're hearing all of the different introductions, and you were like whoa, this is the group of jefas that we're hanging out with right now.

Speaker 2 30:42

you know, so inspired, like I literally am so inspired. One of the things that I nerd out about beyond public speaking is when people have a passion. Like when someone has a passion, I just love hearing about it. I'm like gosh, that is so cool and I won't do anything with that information besides be inspired and support them in whatever way I can. Right, but it's just to me. I think so much of being human is being in a constant state of inspiration. Right, I think inspiration is, then, what leads us into action, but to me, growth starts when you're inspired, and being in the room with people that have all these things going on and all these projects that came from their own lived experiences in their own brains, it baffles me and it makes me so inspired. Literally, I nerd out. I'm like gosh, that's so cool, no way. I'm like, oh my gosh, what am I doing here?

Speaker 1 31:43

Honestly, I might be a little numb to it because I get to hang out with so many amazing women Like I mean, where I have new people in the room every week. Dude, like I would have never known you, mujer, I would have never known half of the hip-hop in the community.

Speaker 2 32:01

I hope you're so proud of that community that you've cultivated Like it's so amazing and people show up every week. No es que, oh, nada más. Una persona A lo mejor en the beginning, right, una persona, pero ahorita ya. You have a good group going and to me I find that those are one of the most productive hours. Aw, thank you for saying that. Talking about time management. Yeah, make sure you go to quitas.

Speaker 1 32:24

Oh yes, come co-work. No, listen, there is science behind body doubling, there is accountability. You are there and you don't have. You have no idea what the other jefas are working on, pero, según our brains, everybody's working. So then it locks us in to just focus, you know, and get something done, get some of those heavy lifting things. Y no, estamos solas, which is the whole purpose of CCJ. And no, it's been great. I'm honored to have so many amazing jefas walk through these doors and just come hang out. It's cool, I love it, I love it so much, it's so cool, and I think I'm so excited and I'm not quite sure if I get to poke at this just yet. So please shut me down if you're like that's too much cheese in there right now and just poke at it. Okay, talk to me about your club. Dime del club. Yes, dime del club.

Speaker 2 33:54

I want to hear about it. Speaking of deep thinking, the public speaking club is going to be right because it hasn't even come out yet, but it's going to be a virtual space for has a prepared speech and we go over a couple different other, like a mini workshop by me prepared speech and we just engage in platica something about public speaking, anything that's top of mind.

Speaker 2 34:11

Community itself, like the platform itself again, is more video heavy, because the idea is that this is the space for you to challenge yourself, to answer this question in two minutes right Like okay, prompts, where I will give you a prompt to practice your public speaking and I'll provide kind of guidance for how to provide feedback for those of us that maybe aren't as comfortable with it. But it's the type of platform where you can respond with a video, right, like, let's say, I post a oh yeah, this is me talking blah, blah, blah, blah, and then someone else wants to tell me about how impactful those two minutes were, so they can record a video, a little selfie video, and post it and give me my feedback, or they can also just comment on it, right, and so I think it's a way of us getting comfortable with the back and forth feedback, practicing our go-to signature topic, because you can completely ignore the prompts if you don't want to, because it is your space, and also really providing people resources to go find and book speaking engagements, right. I think that's one of the biggest things after really thinking about. We want the spaces to be able to practice and I want people to feel comfortable and I want people to practice saying something out loud, but I also want them to get booked and I want them to be on the stages and I want them to get paid, and so it's my commitment to send a newsletter with speaking engagements based on whoever is in the club, right? So if you tell me, kita, I want to go and talk about plants, right? Okay, cool, this newsletter is going to include a couple public speaking engagements or ideas to go and share that message with people. So it's meant to be a really curated space for the community. That's there and I'm really really excited about it.

Speaker 2 35:55

I think I have pretty much everything done for it. But it's like I keep thinking about, oh, but what if this? Or maybe should I wait until this? Should I just do it next year, like new year, right? It's like just do it, right. So I keep going back and forth on when I will release it, but I think I've settled on. There's going to be some kind of pre-launch in December, right? So it's like, hey, join it, and we'll have almost like a this is what it is, you join it, test it out, type of thing, and then in January our programming will really kick off and say, okay, every week, this is a theme of what we'll talk about and kind of just how we interact with one another. So I'm really excited about it because I want it to be. I do want it to be intimate. I want it to be a space that, hey, we can't be physically connected all the time, so let's do it virtually, but let's be intentional with our virtual connection too. So, thank you for asking.

Speaker 2 36:58

I don't know when this podcast episode is going out, but if it goes out in December, or whenever it should be out, Go, click the link.

Speaker 1 37:07

There should be at least a version of some sort of countdown some sort of announcements. Yes, you should know my profile. By the time this recording comes out, there'll be something that says click here for the club Same, so keep your eyes out for that. I'm really excited about it and I think it's something that, since you mentioned you were going to do something like this, I was like, ooh, what is she going to do?

Speaker 1 37:35

I'm so curious, especially for that practicing part. I love how much you talk about practicing and how that is a part of how we cultivate literal everything. You know I've had the privilege to sing on Carnegie Hall stage and getting to Carnegie Hall takes practice, practice, practice Like that's the kind of like practice is part of what it is right, like as athletes or cualquier cosa.

Speaker 2 38:03

I mean I was reading Outliers over again by Malcolm Gladwell and he talks about how, like successful people right, and literally the only thing. I mean many things right, but one of the main things that differentiates someone that's quote, unquote successful and like genius almost in their field is one just the timing of everything for them to the opportunity. Right, it's the opportunity to invest time in said thing and to practice. So I got a random opportunity to public speak more than 11 years ago. I took it, and it was that opportunity that led me to practicing and being like, oh, I'm interested in practicing a little bit more. And because I had that one opportunity word of mouth I kept getting more opportunities to practice my public speaking. And so my success as a public speaker, yeah, maybe comes from my organic sort of kindness or who I am and my nature right, my empathetic nature, but it also comes from actually having the opportunity and time to practice my skill. And so to me it's like, wherever we are in our journey, this space is meant to be the opportunity. If you don't have it anywhere else, it's the opportunity and the time invested in practicing so that those skills do become something that you eventually feel great about and that you are quote unquote successful as a speaker.

Speaker 2 39:33

Right, Because nothing differentiates one person from the other. Anybody can be a speaker. The difference is the opportunity and time that we allow ourselves and, at the same time, are allowed by other people. But sometimes it is external. Sometimes opportunities have to come from outside of our community in order for us to even know that they exist. So to me and then this is the same for a lot of my offerings it's so much about the practice. You don't need more information, you don't need more, you don't need to read more. You don't need me to send you another article. I will be there to guide you and say oh, you use this hand gesture and it kind of indicated this. Right, Because I'm a nerd, but what you need is practice. What you need is to actually say it out loud.

Speaker 1 40:21

Yes, I love it. Say it out loud, very much so. One of the things that I've seen from so much of your teachings is that practice, and so I love that. That is how you literally create for the community, like the practice cards, you know. It's truly just reminding us that that's what we will consistently need for everything Right Like, and it's como que si no llegas, right Like la vida siempre sigue, so no llegas. Right Like la vida siempre sigue, so no llegas, no vas a llegar. We just got to keep going, so we got to practice on our way there.

Speaker 1 40:56

I love it, and so, with that concept of practice and all the things that have led you to be where you're at today, I would love to ask you what piece of advice would you give your fellow HEPA so it can be, it doesn't have to be just public speaking, it could also be and maybe there's a couple of different things of advice here, but it's like what piece of advice would you give, or what piece of advice have you received on your entrepreneurial journey that has helped you and has stuck with you, that you'd also share with your HEPAs journey that has?

Exploring Interests and Keeping It Simple

Speaker 2 41:29

helped you and has stuck with you that you'd also share with your headless. I have the two things that come to mind kind of are opposite to one another. That's all right. The first one that I always and this is something that I have always said to, even when I would do college panels and students would ask me what's your number one advice? Right, I always say if there is even an inkling of interest in something, go explore it.

Speaker 2 41:53

We are so often tied to our timelines, we're tied to our plan, we're tied to what we know and we don't necessarily lean into what our body, our mind, our soul is telling us that we might be interested in. I recently was like I think I would love to manage people, like I would love to be someone's manager and be behind the scenes. That goes back from when I was little. I wanted to be a backup dancer because I wanted to be on the stage and I wanted to travel, but I didn't want to be known. You know, like I wanted the lifestyle but I didn't want to be known. And so the lifestyle, but I didn't want to be known.

Speaker 2 42:31

I have always been someone that explores my interests, because you just never know what is going to stick and bring you joy and make you money. I think it's really important to be in a constant state of learning and be in a constant state of being that student and being open to the signs of ooh. I should explore that. And a piece of advice that I have gotten is which is kind of a little bit opposite, because I don't know if they can go hand in hand but being strategic with keep it simple right.

Speaker 2 43:07

We overcomplicate it and if we were to keep it simple and say you know, I'm thinking about the management thing, right, because this is now something that I'm actually building out I have to think about the legal implications of it. All this stuff. It's like oh, what is the structure going to be like, oh, maybe I could have three tiers, but what if this person doesn't want to do this? So maybe I could have this other tier and this other thing, like have two tiers, yvonne, have two kind of roadmaps for people to choose, because we all need structure in the very beginning, right?

Speaker 2 43:37

I always say this with public speaking too. The reason I help folks with their storytelling or anything isn't because they don't know how to tell stories, isn't because they don't know how to speak or talk, right, but it's because we are, can be all over the place and we need just a little bit of structure to then go and make it our own. And so I guess those two things are kind of don't go hand in hand, but I think it's important to be open to opportunities and interests and, at the same time, keep it simple. Now, that's a piece of advice that I'm still learning.

Speaker 1 44:14

I think simplifying, or the word simple, is a way that I like to actively pursue. Simplicity because I am a natural overthinker and overcomplicator of all the things. And so I feel like it's a way that I am constantly reminding my clients. I feel like because, in application for my clients, it's almost needed to be simplified, right Like, in order for these larger concepts to be not just consumed but implemented. Simplifying is how action begins, yeah, and starting with that very first action step, or where we can start.

Speaker 2 45:00

So I love, I love the reminder to keep it simple, because it's so easily starts as a thought and is then becomes a full-fledged marketing plan, right like and it doesn't even make it to the light of day because I'm overthinking all of the things and kind of, just, you know, I think, oops, I think it's important in in keeping it simple. It's important. I think what a subheader of that for me specifically is understanding that you can't please or meet everybody where they are. I think that is so important in my work as a public speaking consultant. Right, I meet my one-on-one clients where they are, I meet my workshop attendees where they are, and so, in trying to and the people please, join me, right In trying to find something that fits every single person, nunca lo vamos a encontrar.

Speaker 2 45:54

So, to keep it simple, it allows us to say, hey, this is what I have, this is what I can offer right now. If you are, you know, if you have a question about, hey, can I add this? Or what about this? Ya, eso se lo dejas a la demás gente. If your service doesn't work for them, that's okay too, right?

Speaker 2 46:13

I think the people pleasing in me and the overthinker in me always wants to create something specific for one person and it's important to realize, for our own sustainability as a business and our own wellbeing as people, that we can't do that as a business and our own wellbeing as people that we can't do that.

Speaker 1 46:33

Yeah, yeah, oh and then, and then, oh. You're like triggering all these conversations in my head about, you know, just the business side of things, right, Like looking at with a HIPAA hat on, like and, and I think that's something that might be even harder for us to want to get behind in our community because we're just like heart, feeling people you know like so creative.

Speaker 1 46:55

So don't talk to me about the numbers, you know what I mean. But I want to do the impact and I just want to make a change and like and yes, yes, yes to all of those things because we get to do that. We get to do that as we pursue our vision, as we want to create impact. We want to change our comunidad because we know the impact that can happen. Here you look at the very, very large picture of everything. Our community is still a very, very small circle of people that we get to be in our feelings with and in our hearts with and talk about how scary it can be to show up. Pero la neta, we need to make sales to remain a business.

Speaker 2 47:44

Claro, you know we need to keep doing the same. Yeah, no. And how beautiful, right, like, if we reframe it to say how beautiful it is that that is our foundation. Other people, other businesses, have to work backwards to try to find their empathy, to try to find their heart. We started with that. So, how beautiful it is that that's our foundation. And now we're able to use that to bring us up into the. Okay, we're also a business.

Speaker 2 48:11

And what does my business need to be able to grow and be sustainable? And I could go on and on about this, because when I was working in the tech industry, I worked a lot in the diversity, equity and inclusion space and that became like a buzzword and everybody starts off being the business and wanting to be revenue generating. And then they're like, oh shoot, we should probably worry about the impact and being good people in the world and the values that we hold. Yeah, it's like, oh, we should probably think about that. But how beautiful is it that we're transforming the way that business is done? Because we start there. That's our core, that's our foundation, and so we get to to your point. We get to create off of that.

Speaker 1 48:54

Yes, absolutely, and we get to create off of that and it is beautiful that we start there and our hearts are there and it's what brought us to this. Let's do this, let's go and create this thing, and also we get to now look at it and start looking at what are our offerings outside of just how I can help. Let's create this menu of services. You walk into a restaurant you're not like oh well, can I like? Although fine people customize things all the time right?

Speaker 2 49:28

No, that's not the teaching, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1 49:31

But for the most part, when you see a menu laid out, because you see what is available and what's not, knowing where you can serve your clients best and what you can most easily come out and sell right. Like you know, you can provide this service for this dollar amount. Let's go, when we show up online, outside of these curated spaces that we're looking to hold and have safe spaces for each other. When we're showing up online, we are creating impact to our community because we're taking up space, but also we are actively trying to push out in front of people we don't know. You know, as a small business, for the marketing to make the sales right. Like the goal is to not just be selling to each other every day, it's to get in front of people we don't know, and so that's where the hard comes in, where we need to actively keep showing up all the time.

Speaker 2 50:42

And reach out to your network. Like so many of us, I think and I'm speaking for myself I have separated my corporate life and career from my entrepreneurship career and I have to realize that they're actually one in the same. Like the work that I am doing now as an entrepreneur and a business owner is actually a result of the skills and the people and everything that I learned in my career. Like they're not separate, they're still me, like I have all of those skill sets and I've built really great relationships at each one of the companies that I've worked at. And I had to think to myself you know what I'm scared of them knowing about this business, when they are the very people that can vouch for the work that I do. They're the very people that can hire me for the stuff that I do and to go back into the teams that I used to work for and actually train them, because I used to do this kind of stuff within my corporate job too, right. So it's like I think we also or me right have to think about what parts of my career, life or like of my business am I segmenting off? And because I'm segmenting them, because I'm thinking about this my tech career as being separate from my business. Now, what am I possibly missing out on there? Right by hey, like the entire.

Speaker 2 52:05

I just posted on LinkedIn a few weeks ago and I posted maybe one more time, right, but I'm trying to actively get comfortable with being like this is, this, is the network that I built for all of those years that I was working this job Right, and really I was good at what I did Right, and I didn't leave not one single one of my jobs without someone telling, saying to me you're phenomenal, no, why are you leaving? Or, oh, you did this right. Like, my impact was known. So, like, why don't we lean into it? Why do we shy away from those, from those things that could very well be the the, the biggest contract that we ever got Right, like, so I'm learning that too.

Speaker 2 52:47

I'm learning to be like hey, I just have to do it. I just have to say hey, here, I am here. It is Like you know, and muchas veces que la gente on LinkedIn are like, oh, dude, I need your cards, and I'm like oh, what are they going to think about them? Blah, blah, blah Y ni le mande el link. Right, I need to send them the link to it, like yes, then you get to decide what you want to do, yeah, so anyway, sometimes we also need to get out of our own way and actually, you know, bridge our experiences versus segmenting them off.

Speaker 1 53:21

Yeah, I think that's been a really big part of not just my journey but a lot of the jefas in my vicinity and clients and people that are around. I think this past year especially, not just in my journey but in some of theirs as well, the theme has been owning all of our titles and owning our cumulative skill sets. Right, and looking at not just how we actively live and pursue our lives like holistically, like let's give ourselves the credit holistically también. Right, like let's actually own the skill sets that we have added up even prior. Right, porque muchas veces les he dicho a fellow jefas like you may be brand new to entrepreneurship. Right, porque muchas veces les he dicho a fellow jefas like you may be brand new to entrepreneurship.

Speaker 1 54:13

Right, because so many jefas will come into Cafecito and they're like oh, I'm just brand new and I just started, you know, doing my entrepreneurship. I have no idea what I'm doing, but I've been doing no sé qué, no sé qué for like 20 years. Yeah Well, you're not brand new. You're brand new to like doing it by yourself and trying to do it different and being an entrepreneur. Eso, si, pues, si, it's a learning curve, all of those things, but you're not brand new to your expertise you know what.

Navigating Entrepreneurship and Authenticity

Speaker 1 54:41

I'm saying it's simply how it's translated. To show up online and starting with a brand new Instagram page does not mean that your resume starts over. You know what I mean, and so I love that reframe that you brought up, because we do just need to own the skills that we have developed over a lifetime, right, and we get to remind ourselves of who we are and where we came from. Like one of my very first entrepreneurial pursuits was a sales manager.

Speaker 2 55:15

And.

Speaker 1 55:16

I helped my field sales reps okay, which means they didn't work out of the office. We met once a week for a team meeting to say look at what's happening in the team this person sold this and this person sold this and tell us how you did it and show, come here and recognize, recognize, celebrate, celebrate. All right, everybody, keep going. The goal is next week. Do this, do that, check in with me, call me on the phone. Okay, muy bien, um, cause you've um co-working. Much like I didn't even like yeah, it took me just this past year. I was like yo, this is so much of what I do. I've been doing this. I've been teaching people how to sell, since literally part of the job was picking up our phone and calling strangers during the hours of 7 to 8 pm, because that's when most likely they're home.

Speaker 2 56:11

And that needs to be strategically on our websites. That needs to be something that we add to our credibility because, at the end of the day right, thinking about as a business owner and those bigger contracts they're going to want to know that, oh, you've been doing this, because it's different when we've experienced it one-on-one to someone that has never even met you, but they're looking for your service. They need to know that you actually have experience in this. And I'm talking about this for myself, right, like again, I have separated my public speaking and my corporate career for far too long and it's like how can I? I need to bring those together because they are one in the same.

Speaker 2 56:50

And I think sometimes our resistance, or my resistance with it is not only like ay que van a decir mis coworkers, right Es porque I see what I'm trying to build as so different and rooted in my cultura and rooted in something that I really love and perceive all of the other stuff that I learned as not being founded on those things and those values, and so I think in my mind that they're separate and that I have to kind of just start and build everything all over again, including my expertise, your years of experience. No one can take that away and and and no matter. We had to learn them the way that we learned them. We had to work through maybe a job that we didn't really like, but we learned that skill, and now we get to take that skill and make it something that actually serves a greater impact, something that we weren't doing, maybe potentially at that company Right. And so I I am still going through this process of trying to to merge all of those things together and actually talk about them and actually mention them, because I'm surprised all the time by entrepreneurs are like oh, I used to do this and I'm like that's so cool what you know, and it adds credibility to what you do. It really really does, right, like that.

Speaker 2 58:09

That position that you talked about, I didn't know that. I didn't know that about you. Is it on your website, like is it somewhere? Right, like I think there needs to be. I mean, obviously not like a whole resume, right, not like I did this from this year to this year, right, but something in there that tells me a story about oh, yvonne did this when she was like that, those things are important. It's like a digital resume, right. I'm like, should I start a new LinkedIn? Like, should I do that?

Speaker 1 58:35

No, use the same one because the net? Why burn the network? See, see so. I'm like building that network for however long you've had LinkedIn, I haven't. Linkedin has a whole nother like rabbit hole.

Speaker 2 58:52

I'm going to tell Daisy, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1 58:54

Yes, no, and that's the thing is that she I was a part of her LinkedIn Academy. So then, like she helped me revamp it and get pushed past the scaries of like updating, I still had my like phone number from Literal 15 years ago on there. Okay, I hadn't. There was cobwebs on my LinkedIn Shout out to Days and Co and her LinkedIn Academy. So y'all go check her out. Pero there's no longer cobwebs. There's not a whole lot of activity, pero por lo menos it looks better, it has my actual information and people can reach out to me. But same situation with not showing up in a space because it's people that don't know me. In this way, it's like, oh, am I fake? Yes, like I've transformed into a whole new person Exactly.

Speaker 2 59:41

It's like no, it's not that we're fake, it's that, again back to the previous conversation, we've had to dilute so many versions of who we are for so long that this is actually who we should have been showing up as all along, Right? We're relearning to show up in this way, and so no, nos tiene que dar pena. Y a mí, sí me da pena, me da pena, eso es lo que pasa.

Speaker 1 1:00:05

I'm embarrassed, yes, and I think it's good for us to acknowledge it and talk about it, because también perception, right, and the fact that you're saying que te da pena, oh claro, right, and the fact that you're saying que te da pena, oh claro. We look at you online all the time, everywhere and on stages, because literal public speaking right, like so, then you're doing these things and you're like, oh me da pena and we're like you, no just the other day, just yesterday actually, on my personal instagram.

Speaker 2 1:00:37

I I think my bio on my personal Instagram that I started years ago, like when I was cuando salio dice I speak, drink coffee and stuff, right, it's like, okay, that's a good bio, super big, yeah. But just recently I started because I used to post my like public speaking engagements on that page. But because they were, it was just like, oh hey, like thank you for having. It was never a business, it was never something that page. But because they were, it was just like, oh hey, like thank you for having. It was never a business, it was never something that I, it was just life right, like a life journal thing. Just yesterday I put at chats with Yvonne at Latina presente, so that, like, my personal people know that, oh okay, these are, so that I'm not embarrassed by it.

Speaker 2 1:01:15

I think it's like exposure. I'm trying to little by little, expose myself to the feelings of having it and then receive evidence that it's okay, like that people are actually wanting to support you. Like the last, the first post that I posted in a really long time on LinkedIn got a bunch of different reactions from all of my old coworkers, right, and they were like oh my God, this makes so much sense here. I am thinking this is going to make no sense to them. Oh my God, yvonne, this is amazing. I always knew you'd do da-da-da-da. Here's me thinking they probably don't think I'm going to amount to anything. So sometimes we need to put it out there to get proof that what we're thinking is actually completely wrong.

Speaker 1 1:01:55

Oh, 1,000%. Got to do it, scared y'all we, oh 1000%.

Speaker 2 1:01:59

Got to do it. Scared y'all.

Speaker 1 1:02:00

We got to do it scared and show up anyways. Yes, exactly, exactly, yeah, bueno, aquí nos seguimos, with all kinds of advice and all different kinds of rabbit holes. We even started this conversation talking about something else and we're like, oh well, we should start recording. We're just going to keep talking. Our conversations are always good, always. I want to do that, siempre, siempre. So we'll have to come back different episode just to keep talking about all the things jefa life. Pero, thank you, I want to thank you so much for coming on the show and before we sign off and before I have you, tell your fellow jefas where they can find your work and all the things. I have a couple of rapid fire questions, just so your fellow jefas can get to know a bit more of Yvonne, but they're easy, I promise. The first one is about your favorite way to order your cafecito or your tecito at your local coffee shop.

Speaker 2 1:02:52

It's cappuccino. I like the foam. I like it to taste like coffee. No flavor. I'm lame.

Speaker 1 1:03:00

No, clean. You like your coffee, that's awesome, so nada just so I like oat milk.

Speaker 2 1:03:08

So oat milk. If they don't have oat milk, I've recently ventured off into soy milk, so that's where I'm at. Okay, this is supposed to be rapid fire. Recently, I started drinking just espresso. Yum Espresso with just a tiny bit of sugar and I've gotten really cute mugs, so it makes me feel like nice. I try not to put too much sugar in it because I like to taste the coffee. So that's my main thing. I just like to taste the coffee I love it.

Speaker 1 1:03:35

I love it so much. Okay, what book has impacted your life that you would gift to a fellow Heifer?

Speaker 2 1:03:42

Oh, my gosh, that is a good one. I feel like there's a lot. Hmm, that's a good question. Okay, one that I would. That I would just right now, just because I haven't even started reading this other one, that which is what I think I would just right now, just because I haven't even started reading this other one, which is what I think I would recommend, but it's Atlas of the Heart by Brene Brown. Oh, I love that book. I have it right here and yes, I have it. I literally have it right here.

Speaker 2 1:04:11

And the reason is because, when I started going to therapy, my therapist told me you use the word annoying a lot and you need to actually describe your feelings right. It's not annoyance. It's disappointment, it's all these things, and so I happened to come across the book at Target, I think and I picked it up and it's basically defining all of the feelings, and so I would gift that In case you don't have the words for it. The book will help us.

Speaker 1 1:04:36

Yes, that book is beautiful and if reading is hard she also has it. I think HBO somewhere there is an Atlas of the Heart conversation, so she essentially like present, go watch it.

Speaker 2 1:04:50

I love it.

Speaker 1 1:04:52

Go watch it. She literally has an audience and she essentially goes through the book Likele. It's her talking through the emotions and giving visual aids. Like you need to go, mujer, it's like you, go watch it. I need that, go watch it. So, jevas, get the book because it's amazing, it's beautiful, it has literal defining all of the feelings, literal the emotions, and it's beautifully curated. So, anyways, if you don't know Brene Brown, go do it. Awesome, such a great, these are supposed to be rapid fire but always I know, sorry, sorry, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 1:05:32

M2, m2. Okay, Last last question, and it's about one word that describes the season that you are currently in.

Speaker 2 1:05:44

I'm not going to lie. Right now it's like bleh.

Speaker 1 1:05:49

That's my word. All right, we'll take it.

Speaker 2 1:05:52

I'm making my way out of it, but that's my word right now, and that is all right.

Speaker 1 1:05:56

That is all right because that's what these seasons are about. It's not always blue and it's not always amazing, and growth and all of these things. That's real. So thank you for being real and thank you for showing up here and talking to us about your story and how you got here and why you do what you do. Where can your fellow jefas find you online? Where can they connect with you and where can they work with you if they'd like to get to?

Speaker 2 1:06:20

know more about your work. Well, first, thank you for curating the space and allowing me to be a part of it and creating the space for me to feel like I can be real to that capacity. So y'all can find me on Instagram, all the socials at chatswithivan, underscore and Latina Presente, which is my new brand of events and products, like we talked about at Latina Presente across platforms as well For all of my services, check out chatswithivancom. Like we talked about here today. There's some updates that need to be made, but I offer one-on-one public speaking consulting. I offer workshops as well as public speaking engagements in the form of keynotes, panels, even emceeing events. So if that is something that you're into, do that. I have the practice, the public speaking con cultura practice card decks, which can also be found on my website, and I would love for you to try them out and let me know what you think.

Speaker 1 1:07:18

Yes, Get these public speaking practice cards. They're amazing. We use them as a conversation piece While you're on the table with fellow jefas. We hung out for like hours just talking. We were crying. We were going like we're all in, it was awesome.

Speaker 2 1:07:33

That is the literal intention behind them. Thank you for using them.

Speaker 1 1:07:37

No, thank you for creating them. They are beautiful. Have us go check out those practice cards. They make a great stocking stuffer If you want to gift them to your fellow get one for yourself, thank you, thank you. You know what Shoot we're going to do? A quick visual Yo, we have practice speaking cards. They have four different categories right, there is so much intention that is poured into this deck of cards. Y'all it's literal El chisme movimiento del corazón y la emoción. Can you tell that I've been using these to sell?

Speaker 2 1:08:14

them recently.

Speaker 1 1:08:15

So, literally, they have different intentions, them recently. So, literally, they have different intentions. And then Yvonne has curated different prompts for us to practice our public speakings, so literal. This one's called El Chisme, so to practice storytelling, and I'm sure I'm butchering the like, how to use these things. Pero the prompt is lo que es para ti, nadie te lo quita. The prompt is lo que es para ti, nadie te lo quita.

Speaker 2 1:08:44

Yo, that's un powerful can you just like Ponte Perra? Affirmations are happening in these cards. Oh, kita, thank you so much. It really means so much to me because I think again I go back to it's one of those things that we're not I heard this from someone at a networking event that I went to is that, as Latinas, it's not that we're not good at selling or that we're not good at negotiating and things like that is that we're not good at doing that on our behalf, but I can negotiate on your behalf. I can talk you and get you booked and do all these things for you and talk you up and promote you like no other. I do not have a hard time doing that for my people and my community, and so I appreciate you showcasing them, and every time you get the opportunity, you always show love. So I thank you. Thank you for that. Thank you for showing up for me in a way that I need to learn to show up for myself too.

Speaker 1 1:09:36

You're so welcome. You know I love everything that you're doing. I'm excited to get the opportunities to talk you up to show love on your cards. So much love was poured into them, um, and it's just so exciting to get to. I mean, I also had gotten to hear about the cards through gabby, who designed them right, and the anticipation, knowing that there's something that's been poured into and then now it's out there in the world, right, like this creation, something that is so incredibly intentional and a powerful tool.

Speaker 1 1:10:10

So, jefas, if you don't yet have the santividos to work with Yvonne as far as having her manage you and just tell you, do all the things and get you on stages, get her practice cards and start practicing, and you're also going to see a bit and experience a bit of Yvonne's heart through these cards. So be sure to check them out. They were definitely created with a lot of love and, if you know Yvonne at all, she's just a bundle of love. So thank you, thank you, thank you so much for being here, for serving our community, for teaching us to show up and own our chisme skills, and I'm really, really excited to see everything that's going to happen, especially with the club. Stay tuned. Jefas, I am so grateful for you. Thank you so much, jefas. Thank you for hanging out with us today. We get to hang out, show you a bit of who we are and allow our brains to run free when we spend time together. But until next time, I am your host, gita Zuleta. Thank you for listening to the Cafecito con Jefas podcast. Well, jefas, that's a wrap for today's episode. I hope you're leaving with fresh ideas, encouragement and inspiration to keep going.

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Speaker 1 1:11:51

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